1 30.00 --> 45.84 Oh, what is up Wisconsin and beyond. 2 45.84 --> 46.84 I'm Maggie Dawn. 3 46.84 --> 50.24 You're listening to the Maggie Dawn show here on the civic media radio network. 4 50.24 --> 57.24 We've got breaking news this half hour, which I am going to go into detail with you about 5 57.96 --> 66.20 FBI Christopher Ray held a town hall today with all of the employees of the federal bureau 6 66.20 --> 69.84 of investigation and announced his retirement. 7 69.84 --> 75.68 He is to step down as FBI director despite the fact that just under three years remain 8 75.68 --> 77.08 in his term. 9 77.08 --> 81.52 We're going to talk about Ray's retirement and what that means. 10 81.52 --> 90.80 And candidly, do you think he made the right decision 85575855752 4842 call in text lines 11 90.80 --> 91.80 are open. 12 91.80 --> 92.80 We're going to take your thoughts. 13 92.80 --> 97.28 I'm going to give you all the detail on that because here at civic media, we are all 14 97.28 --> 99.80 about real news and great conversation. 15 99.80 --> 106.28 Certainly this is some real news just breaking over the last hour hour and a half. 16 106.28 --> 108.16 I have some of his statement. 17 108.16 --> 114.80 We have the sound from Donald Trump's interview this past weekend with NBC's Kristen 18 114.80 --> 120.30 Welker where he addresses his displeasure with director Ray despite the fact, despite the 19 120.30 --> 126.04 fact that Donald Trump was the one who appointed Chris Ray after he fired James Comey, the 20 126.04 --> 131.64 only firing previous firing of an FBI director that was not, not for cause. 21 131.64 --> 137.52 Again, we're going to get to all of that again, big news breaking just within the last 22 137.52 --> 144.64 hour at the outside about FBI director Chris Ray will be stepping down and resigning 23 144.64 --> 148.40 before Donald Trump takes office. 24 148.40 --> 153.00 But let me give you a little bit more about what we're going to be doing today on the show. 25 153.00 --> 159.96 Busy time again, topic to start off the show will be Chris Ray's retirement at 230. 26 159.96 --> 162.32 We're going to bring on Christina Reynolds. 27 162.32 --> 166.52 She is the senior vice president of communications and content at Emily's list. 28 166.52 --> 172.56 We're going to talk about that race for DNC chair because Ben Wickler is in the mix Wisconsin 29 172.56 --> 179.84 Democratic Party chair, Ben Wickler, considered by most many to be the front runner to be the 30 179.84 --> 181.08 next DNC chair. 31 181.08 --> 186.20 This is at a pivotal moment for the Democratic Party, Wickler in large part credited with 32 186.20 --> 189.80 bringing back the Wisconsin Democratic Party from the brink. 33 189.80 --> 193.24 He's made appearances on MSNBC lately. 34 193.24 --> 199.72 So the Daily Show with John Stewart, we got some of that sound from Ben's interview 35 199.72 --> 200.72 on the Daily Show. 36 200.72 --> 202.96 We're going to get to that with Christina Reynolds. 37 202.96 --> 204.48 That is at 230. 38 204.48 --> 210.04 At three o'clock, I'm going to give you if I can't get it to get all this info to you 39 210.04 --> 211.04 in the first half hour. 40 211.04 --> 217.48 I'm going to give you some updates on the Luigi Mangione criminal prosecution. 41 217.48 --> 220.20 His lawyer was interviewed by Andrew Cuomo. 42 220.20 --> 224.52 For him, he used to be on CNN, interest had some rough times. 43 224.52 --> 231.04 Anyways, he's now on an outlet called news nation Cuomo interviewed Luigi Mangione's 44 231.04 --> 235.92 attorney and let's just suffice it to say I found it interesting. 45 235.92 --> 244.48 I'll give you kind of my insider take as a lawyer on that interview and just his lawyers 46 244.48 --> 252.92 approach, especially in light of new evidence, new evidence coming into the fore today about 47 252.92 --> 254.72 the evidence against Mr. Mangione. 48 254.72 --> 256.96 I'm going to update you on all of that. 49 256.96 --> 261.36 There's even a little hubbub about whether or not the tipster from McDonald's is going 50 261.36 --> 262.36 to get a reward. 51 262.36 --> 263.36 We'll get to all of that. 52 263.36 --> 267.60 And last but not least today, I want to hear from each and every one of you. 53 267.60 --> 270.96 This is going to be in the three o'clock hour, probably around 330. 54 270.96 --> 275.56 You want to hear from you about whether or not you've had to end a relationship in your 55 275.56 --> 280.84 life because of politics, whether that's a romantic relationship, a familial one, you had 56 280.84 --> 285.80 to x x nay, a frenzay because of their politics. 57 285.80 --> 286.80 We'll get to that. 58 286.80 --> 295.84 Some interesting statistics about where Wisconsin rakes rates in terms of relationship problems 59 295.84 --> 298.64 following the election and being in the election cycle. 60 298.64 --> 300.72 So I'm just fascinated about that. 61 300.76 --> 303.48 We will have that discussion within these two hours. 62 303.48 --> 308.28 Of course, you got Dom Salvia coming up after my show and during Dom's show in that first 63 308.28 --> 313.72 hour at four o'clock, you're going to get the word of the four p.m. hour. 64 313.72 --> 319.52 That is for civic media's grown up gift list text to win sweepstakes contest. 65 319.52 --> 322.04 You're going to need the civic media app. 66 322.04 --> 323.80 Dom's going to give you the word at four o'clock. 67 323.80 --> 326.44 You're going to text Dom that magic word. 68 326.44 --> 329.96 That's going to enter you to win either a hundred bucks and cold hard cash. 69 330.04 --> 335.60 The holiday season, we can all use a Benjamin to help with some of the gift purchasing. 70 335.60 --> 340.48 If that's your deal or or if you just want to go have a good time, it's going to enter 71 340.48 --> 343.96 you to win an overnight stay at the Chula Vista Resort in Wisconsin. 72 343.96 --> 349.96 Dulls, of course, then we've got eight grand 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Jim Comey may be gifted Donald Trump the 2016 election. 88 397.04 --> 402.04 Remember it was Jim Comey that despite the FBI's policies about not commenting within 89 402.04 --> 408.20 the 60 days before an election in 2016 came out and told the whole world that they had reopened 90 408.20 --> 412.60 the investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails, et cetera, et cetera and set off a whole 91 412.60 --> 413.60 firestorm. 92 413.60 --> 417.08 I mean, Donald Trump should have written James Comey a thank you letter. 93 417.08 --> 419.96 He didn't open study fired him, but he brought on Chris Ray. 94 419.96 --> 429.64 Now keep in mind also as a point of context here that there is a congressional rule standard, 95 429.64 --> 435.60 if you will, that says that FBI directors shall hold the seat for up to but not exceeding 96 435.60 --> 436.60 10 years. 97 436.60 --> 438.08 You know, I think 10 years. 98 438.08 --> 440.16 That's a long time. 99 440.16 --> 442.24 Now presidents can fire an FBI director. 100 442.24 --> 443.40 They have that power. 101 443.40 --> 444.96 That's not in question. 102 444.96 --> 450.32 But Congress was setting out its intent, its desire that FBI directors would sit for 103 450.32 --> 455.12 these, they would hold those jobs for a 10 year term, which if you think about this, if 104 455.12 --> 462.28 a president wins two terms consecutively, like the FBI director would even stay in the 105 462.28 --> 463.92 job past that. 106 463.92 --> 470.48 The reason that Congress did this, the congressional intent behind that guideline is that the FBI 107 470.48 --> 477.36 director is supposed to be a political, you know, like let's think about this, anybody 108 477.36 --> 479.76 who's a fair minded person. 109 479.76 --> 485.64 And we can argue about the successes and failures of this FBI or J Edgar Hoover's FBI, which 110 485.64 --> 490.72 by any account was completely out of control and spying on Americans and had a political 111 490.72 --> 492.24 enemies list. 112 492.24 --> 499.20 One of the distinguishing characteristics, right, between a regime like Bashar al-Assad's 113 499.20 --> 509.92 in Syria and the United States, between Putin's authoritarian Russia and the United States, 114 509.92 --> 519.72 is supposed to be that elected leaders cannot commandeer the military apparatus or the intelligence 115 519.72 --> 526.52 or law enforcement apparatus to persecute political enemies. 116 526.52 --> 531.52 It's supposed to be the thing that distinguishes us. 117 531.52 --> 539.84 That's what helps make us a shining city on a hill. 118 539.84 --> 545.88 So for any fair minded person, what you want in intelligence gathering, what you want 119 545.88 --> 553.84 in law enforcement, what you want in your DOJ, are people that will follow the facts and 120 553.92 --> 561.60 the law without fear or favor, putting service to the Constitution and the people of these 121 561.60 --> 565.64 United States of America above self-interest. 122 565.64 --> 567.12 That's the standard. 123 567.12 --> 570.76 Any fair minded person, I don't care if you're a Democrat or a Republican and independent 124 570.76 --> 582.12 of purple people, poke, poke it out in person, that's what we all should want. 125 582.12 --> 592.28 And so Chris Rae's resignation, I mean, is this anticipatory obedience? 126 592.28 --> 598.00 Do you think it would have been better for him to force Donald Trump to make history 127 598.00 --> 605.84 again, fire his second FBI director for something other than cause, I mean yikes. 128 605.84 --> 606.84 What do you think? 129 606.84 --> 613.00 Good Chris Rae of resign, 855, 757, 855, 752, 4842. 130 613.00 --> 617.16 Let's hear what Donald Trump said about Christopher Rae. 131 617.16 --> 620.64 This happened just this weekend, okay. 132 620.64 --> 626.16 So this interview I think was recorded last Friday, it aired on Sunday on NBC. 133 626.16 --> 631.24 This is the interview between Donald Trump and Kristen Welker of NBC was aired on Meet 134 631.24 --> 633.84 the Press this Sunday. 135 633.84 --> 641.52 She asked him, asked President-elect Trump about Chris Rae because he said he wants to 136 641.52 --> 647.20 appoint Cash Patel while there's no vacancy in the FBI director and Chris Rae supposed 137 647.20 --> 650.92 to, you know, spend another nearly three years there. 138 650.92 --> 656.36 So let's take a listen to fire the current FBI director Christopher Rae who you appointed. 139 656.36 --> 658.48 Well, I can't say I'm thrilled with him. 140 658.48 --> 662.72 He invaded my home, I'm suing the country over it. 141 662.72 --> 666.64 He invaded Mar-a-Lago. 142 666.64 --> 672.56 I'm very unhappy with the things he's done and crime is at an all-time high. 143 672.56 --> 677.00 Migrants are pouring into the country that are from prisons and from mental institutions 144 677.00 --> 678.48 as we've discussed. 145 678.48 --> 679.88 I can't say I'm thrilled. 146 679.88 --> 684.24 I don't want to, what I'm going to say is I certainly cannot be happy with him. 147 684.24 --> 689.60 You take a look at what's happened and then when I was shot in the year, he said, oh, 148 689.60 --> 690.60 maybe it was Shrapnel. 149 690.60 --> 692.12 Where's the Shrapnel coming from? 150 692.36 --> 697.80 So by the way, that testimony, there's so much that's messed up here. 151 697.80 --> 700.04 Let me see if I can take him in order. 152 700.04 --> 701.76 First of all, crime is not at an all-time high. 153 701.76 --> 703.52 I don't care which statistic you look at. 154 703.52 --> 704.52 That's false. 155 704.52 --> 709.96 Second of all, it is not true that there's like thousand more immigrants crossing the border. 156 709.96 --> 712.60 It's actually gone way down. 157 712.60 --> 721.00 Thirdly, Christopher Rae didn't say conclusively it was Shrapnel, but when he was testifying, 158 721.00 --> 726.92 when testimony was being provided in the immediate aftermath of the assassination attempt, 159 726.92 --> 730.88 they weren't sure if it was the bullet that hit Donald Trump or the Shrapnel and who 160 730.88 --> 735.16 freaking cares somebody tried to kill the man. 161 735.16 --> 738.88 So we're going to talk about this more when we come back. 162 738.88 --> 740.12 Lots of details here. 163 740.12 --> 742.68 I've got some Chris Rae's statement, but I want to hear from you. 164 742.68 --> 746.72 Should Chris Rae have toughed it out and made Trump fire him? 165 746.72 --> 753.24 That is the question that I want to hear your thoughts on 855-757-855-752. 166 753.24 --> 755.20 I'm your friendly lawyer and economist. 167 755.20 --> 756.60 My name is Maggie Don. 168 756.60 --> 757.76 You're listening to me. 169 757.76 --> 762.92 Here on the Civic Media radio network, this great conversation continues right after these 170 762.92 --> 763.76 brief messages.